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redemption
08-07-2002, 01:53
hi guys :)
just a quick poll on your current fav server-side scripting language...
mine's PHP (yes i'm yet another PHP junkie)
Me too... PHP :)
Regards,
Choon
DoorKeeper
08-07-2002, 03:05
used to do stuff in ColdFusion. Extremely powerful and flexible. But only affordable to big users. Well, now it is PHP like everyone else.
eyes_only
09-07-2002, 12:32
:roll:
Prefer doing in ASP.
But for flexibility, I think ColdFusion is better.
But the cost CFM capable servers...let's just say not all of us are rich like Daoming Si. Haha.
I am not well versed in any of them.. But I only come across with PHP only
No ASP.NET? Many developers especially in the US are all converting.
Also, you might wanna adjust Perl to Perl/CGI. Remember I can very easily use Perl with ASP.
DoorKeeper
09-07-2002, 18:50
:roll:
Prefer doing in ASP.
But for flexibility, I think ColdFusion is better.
But the cost CFM capable servers...let's just say not all of us are rich like Daoming Si. Haha.
AGree with your opinion on CF. Who is this rich guy Daoming Si ?
:roll:
Prefer doing in ASP.
But for flexibility, I think ColdFusion is better.
But the cost CFM capable servers...let's just say not all of us are rich like Daoming Si. Haha.
AGree with your opinion on CF. Who is this rich guy Daoming Si ?
He is a character in one Taiwan show called "Liu XIn Hua Yuan" or "Meteor Garden"....
eyes_only
12-07-2002, 16:27
:shock:
Which is better PHP or ColdFusion?
I wanna know coz I wanna learn something new.(been working with ASP)
I have both Apache & ColdFusion server.
I understand that PHP needs a locally runned Apache & SQL..(is it correct?)
So which one to choose?
DoorKeeper
12-07-2002, 16:36
I understand that PHP needs a locally runned Apache & SQL..(is it correct?)
Absolutely . . . untrue ! Almost any hosting account will give you PHP and MySQL.
redemption
12-07-2002, 22:13
PHP can run on many servers, IIS, PWS (!!), Xitami and of course Apache (which works best with PHP)... since you already have Apache installed, adding PHP support shouldn't be too difficult :)
also, most hosts would provide PHP like DoorKeeper said...
and PHP doesn't need a database engine to work... it's like ASP... it doesn't need a database to get to work... the database is just another thing you can work with using PHP, not a pre-requisite
and imho i recommend PHP... trying to say which is better is a very very difficult thing :D
eyes_only
13-07-2002, 00:09
ok thanks...now where do i start?ehehe.. :shock:
Is the scripting similar to asp...well at least does anyone know to query databases with PHP?? Just an example will do.
curiouscat
13-07-2002, 00:19
I used to be a complete idiot in Server side script. But I pick up CF in a week, not that I am smart, It is CF is really easy. It is very easy to communicate with databases. have not tried others but saw some of the script in ASP and PHP and dont understand 80% of it.
So my verdict is definite CF.
There are also some cheap CF hosting (not in Sg). can try www.cfm-resources.com The support are quite good.
As for development while, you can buy the CFMX professional servder which cost about 1k plus. But the development time is definitely reduced.
By the way, I am looking for good CF programmer. Anyone keen can write to me at fisherman@www.com
redemption
13-07-2002, 14:29
$dbcnx = mysql_connect($host,$user,$password); // connect to database server
mysql_select_db($default_db, $dbcnx); // select database to use
$sql = "SELECT id, username FROM user ORDER BY id";
$result = mysql_query($sql); // query the database with SQL statement $sql
// loop thru each row in resultset, printing out the id and username per line
while($row = mysql_fetch_array($result))
{
echo 'ID: ', $row['id'], 'Name: ', $row['username'];
echo '<br />';
}
here's the database query example you wanted eyes_only... the description is in the comments... of course, this is a simplified example with no error-checking... that's not difficult to add in (and you should add it in) but i left them out for clarity's sake :)
eyes_only
13-07-2002, 18:46
Thanks redemption for the demo.
Guess to learn either PHP or CFML you need books to go along?
Coz as ucan see the codes are understandably foriegn for me coz im viewing it for the first time. I had always knew that PHP is faster than ASP.
Cuirouscat how do you learn CFM within one week..i wo :roll: nder
eyes_only
13-07-2002, 18:49
I know cfm-resourses offer a free account. The only one free CFML host.
I think going to use it for testing.
curiouscat
13-07-2002, 20:42
There are a few title in our community library (If you could not find any it probably loaned by me :lol: ). Although they do not hav the latest (usually CF5.0) but it is good enough for learning purpose. Some of them also come with CDROM of codes and evaluation copy of the server. I suggest you borough as much as possible cos some of them do not cover certain topic (especially installation) and some book might not be as easily understood in certain topic.
Also sign up with cfm-resources.com for the free account and try out remote deployment, a bit slow but hey it is free.
curiouscat
13-07-2002, 20:47
example of CF quering for database
<cfquery name='GetData' Datasources = 'YouDatabaseName'>
SELECT YourName, YourAge, YourRecords
FROM YourTable
</cfquery>
Take all folk! Couldn't find anything that is more simple than this.
redemption
14-07-2002, 00:26
there are several free PHP webhosts -> http://www.sitepointforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61018 check out the other threads (there was a long thread but i didn't find it)...
there're PHP books in the libraries too (just as there are CF books)... and online tutorials are always a good resource (check out the PHP sections at www.devshed.com , www.webmasterbase.com , www.devarticles.com)
and PHP has an excellent online reference at www.php.net
eyes_only
14-07-2002, 18:57
After a few considerations..i agree that CFM..is the thing to go.
I find PHP are very similiar to ASP...tougher on the eyes..
CFM offer easier usage and the tags are so simple..its almost like html..
To the testing bed...CFM-resourses.....
redemption
15-07-2002, 14:39
quick finish learning it in 1 week so you can go learn PHP :)
Marcus Lau
29-08-2002, 08:03
Yes, i once attended a Macromedia Seminar in Suntec where they introduce they flagship of softwares. One of them is ColdFusion and it is really amazing and simple to see how it works. All you just need is to let your PC to communicate well with the webserver. Certainly to make this work, need to say they recommend the next product Dreamweaver Ultradev ... haha.
1. PHP
2. Perl/CGI
ASP and CFM are too expensive for remote hosting. PHP and Perl usually come free.
birdfoot
14-09-2002, 01:24
i used 2 love asp... hehehe... cos can test so easily on my own system... learning php now... i tink im gonna luv it evn more than asp! :) i nvr tried coldfusion, jsp n others tho... :P
Heng Chai
14-09-2002, 02:41
I'd say go for pure Perl or C. You'll get much more flexibility. :) :book:
icauldron
26-09-2002, 10:52
No JSP takers ? Harder to host I guess.
here here. I like JSP with beans....damn shiok :-)
tried CFM, ASP and read PHP book b4, i prefer CFM. PHP seems pretty easy.
alva chew
26-09-2002, 19:57
Did some commercial applications in PHP/MySQL. A super duo if you ask me.
:)
Minggeng
20-11-2002, 01:41
So many people like phpBB...maybe should change from vbulletin to phpbb, no need to pay vbulletin also..heh heh
vbulletin no need to pay?
Minggeng
20-11-2002, 14:10
Originally posted by biggulp
vbulletin no need to pay?
i meant if change to phpbb no need to use vbulletin which cost quite a bit i think....
vb has more features, and some companies would prefer an established company to provide support. so they do not mind paying the $160.
vb is very 'server friendly' :D
it can cope with very large boards!
it definately can handle large boards... at least can allow 100+ users online simultaneously
Minggeng
20-11-2002, 19:23
Originally posted by fred
it definately can handle large boards... at least can allow 100+ users online simultaneously
oh.... how many can phpBB handle?
actually it depends on your hardware too.
phpbb's official forums has usually 20-30 users online.
maybe try YABB? www.yabb.com. modified, but pretty much simple and cool.
hey i apologise for the wrong URL.
its at http://www.yabbforum.com/features.php
paisae!
thats the perl version, not recommended, if u want yabb get http://www.yabb.info/
why perl not recommended? i prefer perl. able to perform heavy-duty tasks.
Heng Chai
27-11-2002, 22:06
Perl not as efficient at handling forums. PHP has greater speed and efficiency when it comes to MySQL interfacing.
perl is a great language i'm saying the script is not recommended.
perl script is great also, the only problem that web hoster dont like perl forum is : in early days, all the perl forum use file system to store their data. A forum need to search data very frequently, that's why i need lots of server resources. For php forum, most of them use mysql as the relational database, which increase the searching speed, writing speed, etc etc.
how abt eXtreme Message Board (XMB)
just installed it at my site and so far it has been pretty alright
XMB - http://www.xmbforum.com/
Never install that b4, coz it always come with CPanel.
ya true,
any comments on CPanel?
Cpanel just great :-)
using vertex theme right now
there is a pricing structure for vbulletin. US$85 for leased license and 160 for a owner license. i believe there are pirated ones out there though.:cool:
Yabb SE would be a better choice as it used PHP and mySQL. load faster.
I guess you guys are right. So if we're on the intention of a hell lot of users, maybe YaBB SE is a wiser choice. YaBB is good for those whose hosting plans don't come with MySQL databases.
Cpanel is the authentic shiok for the normal user, just that compared to H-Sphere, it has less functions for the DNS part. Cpanel looks cute and provides quite a bit of the essential info at the main screen.
wallstreat
28-11-2002, 23:32
Me using PHP & ASP, and have been using .NET for the past 6 mths.
Juz finished an ecommerce project in c#, very impressed with the usability and power of .NET :)
wallstreat> any stuff to share with us or show us?
wallstreat
29-11-2002, 08:15
the .NET website will be launched soon (next 2 weeks)...can't reveal much at this moment due to disclosure policy ;)
currently soft-launched and still ironing out some minor bugs :)
Once launched i'll concentrate on my personal web project http://sgforum.com
Originally posted by libra
I guess you guys are right. So if we're on the intention of a hell lot of users, maybe YaBB SE is a wiser choice. YaBB is good for those whose hosting plans don't come with MySQL databases.
Cpanel is the authentic shiok for the normal user, just that compared to H-Sphere, it has less functions for the DNS part. Cpanel looks cute and provides quite a bit of the essential info at the main screen.
DNS part? :confused: i thought H-Sphere is attractive because of its billing part........
vbulletin standard ver is free.....
Minggeng
20-01-2003, 02:14
i think invisionboard looks not bad...chioer than phpbb
Marcus Lau
17-07-2003, 03:19
Vbulletin is good because it does not stress the server and beside that the control panel is user friendly and there are a lot of support if you need and it fast too. Certainly these come with a price tag and i will recommend companies who are willingly have the funds to purchase the licence because in long term its much more better.
However if you are have money constraints in my own recommendation is to download invision board. They are a user friendly and have nice interface as well as support and hacks.
iDeBuggers
18-07-2003, 01:57
What about phpBB. It think this is also one of the free and easy to use forum. Great for small and personal forum. Include some mods as well.
I tried invisionboard before. One word... "Good" Haha Free and easy to use. I mod the panel abit and included some nice hack such that a front user panel is presented to user no matter registered or unregistered. I think invision is more "hackable" compare with phpBB if you are to compare. But both are easy to manage and use. Quite straight forward.
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