View Full Version : I'm a successful reseller now, what should i do next ??
hi, let say i have 40 clients now(not sure is it enough to be a successful reseller), so what should i do next? Coz i think if client base reach certain amount, it will be better to move a way from reseller program in order to lower down the cost.
If possible, states the detail costing also.
Thanks alot.
Hi fred,
Wow... 40 clients... I just have about 20++ from the 3rd month of my web hosting biz and the number still about the same till now :(
Am I consider as "not successful" ? :(
Anyway, for a reseller to "upgrade"... that's getting a dedicated server on its own. Meaning you are not going to shared a server with other resellers (resellers from your host) for the dedicated server you are getting. You need to know about managing your own dedicated server though.
For a dedicated server, you need to pay typically for the following:
- Setup fee
- monthly fee will varies depending on providers
- control panel(s) fee (if any)
- managing fee (if any)
For managing of the server fee, you can do it yourself if you know or else this will be very expensive. If you are going to get a paid control panel for administration and for your clients such as WHM/Cpanel... you still need to know about those commands in the command line though. If that control panel gives you trouble(s) such as due to its bug(s)... I can only say... good luck!
It is not possible for me to list any price for the above-mentioned fees as it will varies from providers and their service offerred.
Just my thoughts ;)
Thanks.
Kindest regards,
Choon
P.S. Successful or not isn't counted by the number of clients you have... the price you charge for each client is the main fact :D
Heng Chai
01-10-2002, 18:54
Just because you have 40 customers you want to move on to dedicated? Remember that for dedicated you still need to manage your own server. That's time and effort that's currently being done for you by your provider. Might or might not be a worthwhile decision.
hmmm...then how much customer you think is reasonable, before i should move out from my reseller plan. Just a guess, is ok :)
Not mention manage the server, setting up is a headache already, may be can get apache, php running, but how to achieve optimised performance, and other issues.... huh... dare not to think about it.
Heng Chai
01-10-2002, 20:17
If you need a dedicated server, there's a lot to consider. If you look at WHT you should know a lot of the US dedicated server providers aren't actually very good.
The best bet is, if reselling works well for you and gives you enough profit to cover the amount of work done, stick to it. If you think you can achieve far large profits which is worth the workload to manage a dedicated server, then go hunt for a good provider for ded server.
oh 20+ client not bad loh
better then nothing.....
Originally posted by fred
hmmm...then how much customer you think is reasonable, before i should move out from my reseller plan. Just a guess, is ok :)
It depends on how much you earn for each customer. If you have about 20 customers paying you $USD10/month and you can calculate/esitmate about how much profit you have earned as below:
20 customers x USD$10/month = USD$200/month
Your cost for your reseller account is USD$35/month (example)
Minus about overage charges like additional bandwidth etc...
USD$200/month - USD$35/month - (any additional) = PROFIT
The above is just a rough calculation. See, if you have 40 customers and each is paying you USD$5/month... it will still almost the same profit as you have those 20 customers paying USD$10/month but you have more support issues to handle due to more customers.
Now, before jumping into dedicated server... think about can your PROFIT cover the dedicated server cost(s) beside the managing server issue? Sometimes a successful reseller will be asked to get a dedicated server by the host and not that the reseller wants to leave but being forced to leave.
Not mention manage the server, setting up is a headache already, may be can get apache, php running, but how to achieve optimised performance, and other issues.... huh... dare not to think about it.
Why don't dare to think about? LEARN is the main key and it depends whether you are interested or not :)
Just my thoughts ;)
Thanks.
Kindest regards,
Choon
I do learning it bit by bit, but in the near future wont go dedicated :)
Heng Chai
02-10-2002, 14:02
Well, dedicated is a good try if you can make it work. If not you just need to be cool and stick with reselling. If you asked me, reselling makes $$ worth unless there is a specific need (like client wants special request that your host cannot do and he's willing to pay $$ for it.) Or else you're much better sticking to reseller accounts. For hosters they prefer resellers too, cause they will only deal with one person rather than a whole array of people. Interaction is much smoother.
DoorKeeper
03-10-2002, 16:56
fred,
As a reseller, you hold websites in your hand (server). If you do get a dedicated server and sell reseller accounts, you hold people's livelihood in your hand.
throwing another suggestion here ... buy your own server and colo it ...
that's what I'm doing ... and for your info ... learning is key to life!
Heng Chai can vouch for the fact that just a few months ago ... I was a complete newbie try to differientate between the various Control Panels ... now here I am setting up my own server, testing it, installing the OS, hardening the OS, install the control panel, getting backups going etc ... its hard work but its sure is hell ALOT OF FUN !
Wah... so fast going for colocation liao :con3
fred, are you going to listen to royong's suggestion :deal:
If you need :help: ... go ask royong :D
Anyway... just kidding royong :p
About half a year back, I am thinking of being a reseller can let me take my time to learn but there are certain things which you need to be "root" in order to learn like installing server's softwares etc... I learn the most when there is a problem and I have not idea what is the problem about :dunno: I need to search "high and low" for ways to solve my problem... :bangwall:
In short, more problems I encounter for my servers... the more I will learn when I :kill each of them :D
Anyway, my suggest for you (:bowdown: fred) is to start with using any Linux as a desktop like RedHat... now RedHat has released its version 8.0 liao and currently I am downloading the iso images from varies mirror sites .
Cheers!
Kindest regards,
Choon
interesting post choon. Thanks for your suggestion also :-)
I've been using linux redhat for quite some time, now using 7.2 with my apache and tomcat. Can run well, but may be not the optimised one.....
Hardening? i only disable useless accounts, and jobs..... sometimes do IP filtering also. Not sure am i doing the right thing, just read here and there from internet hehe :D
owning a server will be the thing to do next, but in my case, that wont be so fast..... too much to learn and too much to be done now.
sg.gs, royong and choon, if we are able to hang acound here for long enough, i will definately need ur guys' 'intensive help' at the moment :bowdown:
Heng Chai
04-10-2002, 09:50
*walks away from fred*
:p
Not going to help. nyahhaha
Originally posted by SG.GS
*walks away from fred*
:p
Not going to help. nyahhaha
fred, how do you deal with sg.gs in this case if sg.gs *walks away from you* :rolleyes:
Issue this command:
# kill sg.gs
or
:kill sg.gs :D
Regards,
Choon
P.S. Sorry for this post as I can't resist it :D
Heng Chai
04-10-2002, 10:29
:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire
I shall have my revenge!
:curse: :frust: :evil :kill :mad:
I gotta hack into his server and rm -Rf / !!!
Wah.... scary... then fred... better keep the sg.gs process(es) running instead of killing it :D
Regards,
Choon
P.S. another off-topic post... sorry as I think one day I will be "asked" to leave from being a mod :p
Heng Chai
04-10-2002, 11:05
Haha. :p
I have over 500 posts, even more than the owner. I think I'll be the first to be asked to leave.
Fred ... no worries on the call for help... I'm always here - though I must admit that I'm not as good as some of the gurus here ...
But I'm sure we will all pitch in and help. No worries about that ...
Heng Chai - I'm giving you a headstart on the number of posts .. i have been very very busy these few days ... hence the lack of posts ... but I will be back !
Heng Chai
04-10-2002, 23:06
Heng Chai - I'm giving you a headstart on the number of posts .. i have been very very busy these few days ... hence the lack of posts ... but I will be back !
So should I make FULL use of my advantage? :D
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